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  • Mon, Apr 14 2008 5:51 PM

    • lmerino
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    Is MC Software technically "offline"

    I've been editing on Avid for a few years now, but to answer a question I going to just play like I never have.

    In the press releases for the new components, the description for MC-software reads
    "Media Composer software – For independent or mobile film and video editors looking for a portable offline editing solution with support for file-based editing"

    Why is it being marketed as "offline?" 

    If I'm editing dvcproHD material off of P2 cards, am i editing only offline quality? 

    Do they call it offline because it cannot play back through any analog output?

    Do they call it offline cuzz they want you to think you need a mojo/nitris box?


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  • Mon, Apr 14 2008 6:05 PM In reply to

    • Butcher
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    Re: Is MC Software technically "offline"

    lmerino:
    If I'm editing dvcproHD material off of P2 cards, am i editing only offline quality?
     

     

    No, unless you transcode the DVCProHD files to an offline resolution, like 14:1.

    lmerino:

    Do they call it offline because it cannot play back through any analog output?

    Perhaps.  Because it's software only you can use it to do your initial edit, lock picture, then take it to a Symphony for the online (color correction, etc...) and output.

    lmerino:

    Do they call it offline cuzz they want you to think you need a mojo/nitris box?

    Probably.  But unless you're able to stay with a file-based workflow all way way to final delivery, you'll eventually need some hardware to drop your stuff to tape.  Hence the hardware options.  Plus, it sounds like the hardware may actually assist with crunching effects and stuff, unlinke the Adrenaline and Mojo (which don't, contrary to popular belief).

     

    Michael.

  • Mon, Apr 14 2008 6:49 PM In reply to

    Re: Is MC Software technically "offline"

    Do they call it offline cuzz they want you to think you need a mojo/nitris box?

    It's not about that, it is about targeting their product. Someone in offline will not be capturing or playing out material very often, and is not likely to be tweaking images as often and as intensive as someone in 'online'/finishing will be.

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  • Mon, Apr 14 2008 9:28 PM In reply to

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    Re: Is MC Software technically "offline"

    Offline editing refers to the initial editing processing (edit to rough) whereas online refers to the finish editing (full-quality effects, transitions, color correction, etc.) You wouldn't edit your 4K move in an offline editing suite. You'd edit the proxies for the movie, then make an EDL and shove that over to the online editing suite.

    In the online editing suite, you'd conform the video, apply the EDL, do the color correction, add finish quality effects, titles, etc.

    So it has nothing to do really with the capture and playout hardware. You could have the ability to capture and playout the 4K clips in MC but it would still be designated as an offline editor.

    Another way of looking at it: the offline editor is where you do all the real work of editing. The online editor has all the buttons and lights suitable for a starship and is the one you show your clients while making the final tweaks with his input. Big Smile


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  • Tue, Apr 15 2008 7:44 AM In reply to

    Re: Is MC Software technically "offline"

    The division is a thing of the past, of course.

    BTW: by your logic, Nitris DX would do 4K, quod non. The difference between the Avid products is the amount of I/O and RT power they come with. Then at the top you can spend 14K on a color corrector and Universal Mastering for Symphony software.

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