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  • Sat, Sep 23 2006 10:14 PM

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    Staggery animation when imported from After Effects

    We are trying to import quicktimes exported from After Effects - logos with words panning across the screen - into Media Composer. The frame rate is the same in the After Effects comp as it is in the Avid project settings and both the Avid and After Effects project are set to render the lower field first. Yet when I watch the graphic within Avid, the image is staggery and jumpy as it slides across the screen, the words incoorporated into the logo unreadable. Can anyone help?
  • Sun, Sep 24 2006 5:41 AM In reply to

    Re: Staggery animation when imported from After Effects

    do a screenshot of your aftereffects output settings. something isn't matching. it is either field interpretation or resolution.

    also, try rendering to a uncompressed non-avid codec. there are settings in there also.



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  • Sun, Sep 24 2006 10:25 PM In reply to

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    Re: Staggery animation when imported from After Effects

    noelvaneynde:
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    also, try rendering to a uncompressed non-avid codec. there are settings in there also.


    can you give an example for that uncompressed non-avid codec. Because I'm having the same problem in importing from AE into Avid. Thanks
  • Mon, Sep 25 2006 2:03 AM In reply to

    Re: Staggery animation when imported from After Effects

    ok, create your comp at 720x486, D1 non-square pixels.

    create the following render and output modules...

    let us know if it works!
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  • Mon, Sep 25 2006 2:04 AM In reply to

    Re: Staggery animation when imported from After Effects

    here is the output module i use..
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  • Mon, Sep 25 2006 2:41 PM In reply to

    Re: Staggery animation when imported from After Effects

    I had a similar issue a couple weeks back and all it was was that I was importing my graphics with the interlaced box checked instead of non-interlaced in your import settings.  Maybe try exporting out of quicktime non-interlaced?


  • Tue, Sep 26 2006 4:26 PM In reply to

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    Re: Staggery animation when imported from After Effects

    Well, I tried everything, and have an Avid bin with over 100 failed attempts in it. I can't help but feel like its something so simple thats messing it up but I can't find any discrepancies anywhere. The project is due today so I had to record to a tape and then digitize the graphics into Avid that way. Yes its insane, but so is Avid's importation system. Thanks for trying to help anyway.
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    Re: Staggery animation when imported from After Effects

    psp:
    Well, I tried everything, and have an Avid bin with over 100 failed attempts in it. I can't help but feel like its something so simple thats messing it up but I can't find any discrepancies anywhere. The project is due today so I had to record to a tape and then digitize the graphics into Avid that way. Yes its insane, but so is Avid's importation system. Thanks for trying to help anyway.

    Any chance on seeing a still frame of this content?

    Some culprits are pixel lines smaller than 3.

    I try not to go under 5 just so to avoid the head-ache.

    Others are color and overlay issues in After Effects.

    Some things just dont work due to interlace problems.

     

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  • Tue, Sep 26 2006 5:48 PM In reply to

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    Re: Staggery animation when imported from After Effects

    What resolution is the footage in your comp? What frame size is your comp? What's your output frame size?
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  • Tue, Sep 26 2006 5:49 PM In reply to

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    Re: Staggery animation when imported from After Effects

    Also, did you make sure to interpolate any NTSC footage within your comp BEFORE outputting?
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  • Tue, Sep 26 2006 6:16 PM In reply to

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    Re: Staggery animation when imported from After Effects

    Here's a freeze frame... these logos are all traveling horizontally at varying speeds, but not so fast that they shouldn't be readable. My comp and output frame size are both 720 x 486 D1 non-square. My expertise actually is with After Effects, and not Avid at all, so I think the problem isn't the exportation as much as it is the import settings in Avid. The Quicktime movie looks fine before I send it to the Avid machine.
  • Tue, Sep 26 2006 6:22 PM In reply to

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    Re: Staggery animation when imported from After Effects

    Then what are your import settings? Are you using 601 non-square? I think you said you are using lower field first....

    And again...did you interpolate any NTSC footage before adding it to your comp?

    [EDIT] I see no NTSC footage though..is this correct?
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  • Tue, Sep 26 2006 6:23 PM In reply to

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    Re: Staggery animation when imported from After Effects

    I'm not seeing any errors in your freeze frame.....

    For what should we be watching?
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  • Tue, Sep 26 2006 6:46 PM In reply to

    Re: Staggery animation when imported from After Effects

    sounds like a drag.

    did you try using the AE output settings I posted using NONE as a quicktime codec?

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  • Tue, Sep 26 2006 7:11 PM In reply to

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    Re: Staggery animation when imported from After Effects

    BLKDOG:
    I'm not seeing any errors in your freeze frame.....

    For what should we be watching?

    Not so sure but the thin borders can be a problem. I wont know until I see an actual clip.

    Did you try the AE plug-in for Interlacing as well?

    All my Motion Design is strictly After Effects and Maya so I feel your pain.

    But, its been a long time since Ive ran into something like yours.

     

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