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  • Tue, Dec 5 2017 6:38 PM

    • Atomike
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    Building New PC for MC - Parts List for Your Criticism!!!

    7 years since I built a PC for MC.  Based on comments here, I've put together this parts list for you to mock or love!  I'm open to changing all of this, so feel free to pick it apart!!!

    - CPU:  Intel Core i7-7820x    $560

    - MB:  Asus Rog Strix x299-E Gaming Motherboard    $320

    - RAM:  Ballistix Sport 64GB Kit 16x4 sticks. DDR4 2400    $670

    - PNY Quadro P2000-PB Video Card   $400

    - Windows 10 64bit Pro    $150

    - SSD, Case, Media Drives from current PC.

     

    Thoughts?  Comments?  Seething Hatred?  Let me know!!!

    Most of my picks stem from this thread:  http://community.avid.com/forums/t/180415.aspx?PageIndex=2  So, that's why it is what it is.

    Media Composer 8.X (usually newest release), Avid matrix-recommended versions of both Nvidia driver and Quicktime, Matrox Mini MX02, Self-built machine... [view my complete system specs]

    I spend most of my time between New York and Los Angeles.  In Nebraska.

  • Wed, Dec 6 2017 12:55 AM In reply to

    • TVJohn
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    Re: Building New PC for MC - Parts List for Your Criticism!!!

    Will you be using the stock CPU Intel cooler?

    Dell Display U2713HM(2560x1440), AMD FX8350 8core, AMD 990FX mobo, 32gig-DDR3-1600, Quadro K620/GTX260/core 216, Audigy2zs, 1TB SSD system drive, 2TB SATA... [view my complete system specs]

    Using MC 8.8.5 Avid FX6.4, Vegas Pro 13/ DVD Architect 6pro, DVDit6.4proHD, CCE Basic, TmpGe Express4, TmpGe Authoring Works 4, DVDLab-Studio. Sony EX-1R, Canon XH-A1, GL2, GL1, Canon EOS 60D

  • Wed, Dec 6 2017 7:47 AM In reply to

    Re: Building New PC for MC - Parts List for Your Criticism!!!

    I would go with a GeForce card over the Quadro. And I'd consider the 8th gen i7 8700K.

    "When I spent 60k on a discreet edit digisuite system 10 years ago someone came up to me to offer fcp 2, I said it was a scam too." -Ric

  • Wed, Dec 6 2017 1:49 PM In reply to

    • Gretski
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    Re: Building New PC for MC - Parts List for Your Criticism!!!

    I used the ASUS X299 with the 7820 - works great!

    One suggestion would be a high speed M.2 SSD for the boot drive.

    Given the 8 cores I suggest liquid cooling as my massive air cooler still cant cope with anything but a minor overclock.

    I also fitted a quadro M2000 - no issues

    Parts of MC are still not optimised to use all the cores fully so dont be surprised if its not as fast as you think it should be.  But mostly its very good.

    Asus X299, i7 7820, Nvidia 2000M 32GB ram, NVME SSD 8.9.1 ( yes its very fast!) [view my complete system specs]
  • Wed, Dec 6 2017 3:21 PM In reply to

    • Atomike
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    Re: Building New PC for MC - Parts List for Your Criticism!!!

    I'm torn because the Quadros have always been "more" supported.  I guess now, the GeForce cards are really equally supported. Stability is my main concern.

    For the CPU, I like the suggestion of the 8700K - it seems faster and is considerably cheaper. I will be using the stock cooler. I don't want to mess with water cooling.

    I have an SSD that I'll use already. 

    I guess now I just need to decide if a 1070 video card would be the better choice... hmmm.

    Media Composer 8.X (usually newest release), Avid matrix-recommended versions of both Nvidia driver and Quicktime, Matrox Mini MX02, Self-built machine... [view my complete system specs]

    I spend most of my time between New York and Los Angeles.  In Nebraska.

  • Wed, Dec 6 2017 10:21 PM In reply to

    Re: Building New PC for MC - Parts List for Your Criticism!!!

    P2000 works very well with MC.

    If you want the PC for playing games go for the 1070.

    For faster editing a kind of OC of the CPU is recommended.

    I run mine for 7 years from 3.4 to 4.4 with a better 12cm fan.

    The difference in rendering is more than obvious to the point that after so many years I can edit 4K fine

    even linked on AMA (which the P2000 helps also a lot).

    However if you don't know to do it or you are not sure how, stick to the default setup.

     

     

    Desktop
    Corsair RM750X/Asus P8Z68 Deluxe(Gen3)/i7 2600K@4.4/Corsair 32G DDR3/PNY Quadro P2000D(385.08)/Samsung 850 Pro SSD(OS) 256 GB/ 2x2TB WD RE4@RAID 0/LG BH16NS40/W10 Pro 64bit/Media Composer Software 8.9.3 with Symphony • PhraseFind • ScriptSync Option/2xHP 22'' Monitors/M-Audio AV30 Speakers.

     

    Larry as long as I live I will remember you.

     

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  • Thu, Dec 7 2017 6:38 AM In reply to

    Re: Building New PC for MC - Parts List for Your Criticism!!!

    Atomike:
    I'm torn because the Quadros have always been "more" supported.  I guess now, the GeForce cards are really equally supported. Stability is my main concern.

    For the CPU, I like the suggestion of the 8700K - it seems faster and is considerably cheaper. I will be using the stock cooler. I don't want to mess with water cooling.

    I have an SSD that I'll use already. 

    I guess now I just need to decide if a 1070 video card would be the better choice... hmmm.

    The 8700 should also be a little faster for apps that aren't super well optimized for multithreading, MC fits into that category.

    You might want to jump up to the 1070 Ti or the 1080. As for the Quadro, I'd suggest watching this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC_sx6A5Wko

     

    "When I spent 60k on a discreet edit digisuite system 10 years ago someone came up to me to offer fcp 2, I said it was a scam too." -Ric

  • Thu, Dec 7 2017 3:07 PM In reply to

    • Atomike
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    Re: Building New PC for MC - Parts List for Your Criticism!!!

    That was a fairly eye-opening video.

    Since I also do 3D animation with Blender, I'm now leaning toward the 1070 Ti card for graphics.

    Very glad I started this thread.

    Media Composer 8.X (usually newest release), Avid matrix-recommended versions of both Nvidia driver and Quicktime, Matrox Mini MX02, Self-built machine... [view my complete system specs]

    I spend most of my time between New York and Los Angeles.  In Nebraska.

  • Sun, Dec 10 2017 3:31 AM In reply to

    Re: Building New PC for MC - Parts List for Your Criticism!!!

    Mike, I would also *consider* using an M.2 NVME PCIe 3 x4 SSD for a boot and programs drive. Personally, I don't care much about boot times, but the argument could be made that if you're making a new system you might as well use the latest in drive performance.

    Also pay attention to the PCIe slot configuration of the z370 motherboard and its number of total PCIe lanes.

    If you are planning on running two graphics cards, then the z370 will not offer enough PCIe slots to run both at x16. So in that case, you should consider going with x299. But the practical advantage of x16 over x8 with PCIe 3.0 is considered to be negligable with today's graphics cards. 

    "When I spent 60k on a discreet edit digisuite system 10 years ago someone came up to me to offer fcp 2, I said it was a scam too." -Ric

  • Tue, Dec 12 2017 8:25 AM In reply to

    • Gretski
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    Re: Building New PC for MC - Parts List for Your Criticism!!!

    I would go for cores - 7820 = 8 core  (vs 6 core)  But it does need decent cooling.

    Asus X299, i7 7820, Nvidia 2000M 32GB ram, NVME SSD 8.9.1 ( yes its very fast!) [view my complete system specs]
  • Tue, Dec 12 2017 8:45 AM In reply to

    Re: Building New PC for MC - Parts List for Your Criticism!!!

    Older design with two more but slower cores vs newer design with two less but faster cores. There are good arguments to go either way. From the tests I've seen, unless the program is very well optimized to take advantage of multiple cores, the 8700 will be faster.

    "When I spent 60k on a discreet edit digisuite system 10 years ago someone came up to me to offer fcp 2, I said it was a scam too." -Ric

  • Wed, Dec 13 2017 1:13 PM In reply to

    • DStone
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    Re: Building New PC for MC - Parts List for Your Criticism!!!

    IMHO, for MC faster cores are better than more cores. Of course, faster and more would be better still. Yes

    DIY quad core I7-4790K, 16Gb, NVidia GTX 970 4GB, Win 10 Pro, MC 8.7, MC 7.x [view my complete system specs]

    Dave S.

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