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  • Wed, Feb 22 2017 2:38 PM

    More GPUs Supported Now?

    I have an Nvidia Titan X in a Z820 and noticed that when our newly installed Avid 8.6.4 launched, the splash screen said "GPU support enabled". I then looked in the text file that enables/disables cards and noticed that it ONLY has exculsions now eg cards that are NOT supported.

     

    We are due to build a new system and I wondered if there was any official word on this or if anyone else could chime in? The Avid system requirments page still has the very small number of supported GPU listed...

     

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  • Wed, Feb 22 2017 4:59 PM In reply to

    Re: More GPUs Supported Now?

    Similar question have been asked over and over and over and over and over again. Also by me recently.

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    Re: More GPUs Supported Now?

    pretty much any modern CUDA based card will work (so both current Quadro and GTX cards). You can also use the Radeon FirePro line of cards, but I don't know about the consumer level Radeon cards. As Avid finds cards that don't work, the get added to the non qualified card list.

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  • Wed, Feb 22 2017 6:20 PM In reply to

    Re: More GPUs Supported Now?

    Sorry I know it is asked a lot but we want to buy a new 'supported' system from an Avid reseller that will shine with Resolve too. To pay literally £3k extra to have a worse GPU is a bit over the top when the software recognises the Titan X.

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    Re: More GPUs Supported Now?

    David et al 

    We changed from a GPU white list to a GPU black list.

    When you launch media composer it looks for greater than 2GB GPU memory.  If that is good it does a transfer to GPU test. If that passes it turns on the GPU acceleration.

    If one of these tests doesn’t pass it doesn’t turn on GPU acceleration.

    The black list ONLY contains cards where we know there is an issue.

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    Re: More GPUs Supported Now?

    david@cuttothebeat.com:

    I have an Nvidia Titan X in a Z820 and noticed that when our newly installed Avid 8.6.4 launched, the splash screen said "GPU support enabled". I then looked in the text file that enables/disables cards and noticed that it ONLY has exculsions now eg cards that are NOT supported.

    We are due to build a new system and I wondered if there was any official word on this or if anyone else could chime in? The Avid system requirments page still has the very small number of supported GPU listed...

    Thanks

    Dave Austin

    Dave

    The qualification page still lists only Nvidia quadro series and AMD FirePro series.  Those cards ship with OEM workstations.

    Avid does NOT qualify consumer cards from Nvidia or AMD nor do we qualify the drivers that go with them. 

    The Titan card may be very high end but still considered consumer (gaming).  Product management does not want to spend any money qualifying these cards.

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  • Wed, Feb 22 2017 8:46 PM In reply to

    Re: More GPUs Supported Now?

    Ok thanks Marianna. The blacklist is a better idea and a step forward. I can see why Avid wouldn't want to test millions of cards too. It's a bit of a shame as the Titan X outperforms the Quadros at about a quarter of the price! I know it will work but we want to buy a supported system.

    If we put the Titan X in as a second card with a lean (say K2200) card as the Avid one, would that be supported? I want to be able to call our reseller if it goes bang!

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    Re: More GPUs Supported Now?

    I suppose but I kow if I ask Dave and George they will say NO... we wont test it so its USE at own risk.

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    Re: More GPUs Supported Now?

    david@cuttothebeat.com:

    Sorry I know it is asked a lot but we want to buy a new 'supported' system from an Avid reseller that will shine with Resolve too. To pay literally £3k extra to have a worse GPU is a bit over the top when the software recognises the Titan X.

    That's the choice you have to make. Either you go with a supported system, and pay the price accordingly, or you save the money and deal with any issues that come up. While quite a few of us (myself included) use GTX cards, there have been issues with some of them not working in the past because of incompatible driver issues. And while these have been fixed by later driver releases from NVidia, this may have been a side effect rather than a planned fix.

    Also, consider that Resolve is a multi-GPU based system. Even the free version will use 2 GPUs. You could purchases a less expensive Quadro for use with MC and use a Titan X for dedicated rendering with Resolve (the Quadro would be used to drive the display, and optionally also provide some rendering support).

     

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    Re: More GPUs Supported Now?

    david@cuttothebeat.com:

    Sorry I know it is asked a lot but we want to buy a new 'supported' system from an Avid reseller that will shine with Resolve too. To pay literally £3k extra to have a worse GPU is a bit over the top when the software recognises the Titan X.

    I don't know what card you're talking about but I wouldn't say the equivalent Quadros are "worse" cards - in fact they are better when used with some applications (particularly precision applications like CAD), while the consumer cards are optimised for gaming (fast rendering). The drivers are different and some features have been turned on and off between the cards.

    Cards like the Titan are very high end consumer and probably represent the best compromise.

     

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  • Fri, Jul 7 2017 11:23 AM In reply to

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    Re: More GPUs Supported Now?

    Where can I find the whitelist for Graphics Cards, specifically with CUDA.

    On Nvidia's website, they have this...is this the latest? greatest? most complete?

    http://www.nvidia.com/object/avid-media-composer.html

     

    Please advise.

     

    Thank you,

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    Re: More GPUs Supported Now?

    There is no longer a whitelist. There is now a blacklist of cards known not to work. The file is C:\Program Files\Avid\Avid Media Composer\SupportingFiles\Config\DisqualifiedGpuBoards.txt.

    Currently, for the PC, the following are not qualified:

    NVidia


    • driver 361.91, all cards
    • OCL for all drivers before 376.84
    • Quadro K620, 1000M, 200M K1000M, K2000M, K620M, M500M

     

    AMD


    • Driver 16.0-16.399.999.999, all cards
    • OCL for all drivers before 15.201.2401
    • FirePro W2100

     

    For the Mac, the NVidia GeForce GT 750M is not supported.

    This is as of MC 8.8.3. The list may have been updated with later versions of MC.

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    Re: More GPUs Supported Now?

    Thank you for the quick reply.

    So...to confirm, the cards listed in the link below are OK, as long as the drivers are >361.91 with OCL <376.84

    http://www.nvidia.com/object/avid-media-composer.html

     

    I'd like to take advantage of CUDA without spending an arm and a leg...I'm not sure if the Nvidia site has the most current product.  With that said and in regards to your NVidia GTX 970 4GB...how does that perform, and does MC 8.5 take advantage of CUDA?

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    Re: More GPUs Supported Now?

    OCL < 361.91 is not supported. All the cards listed on that page are supported, as all the later GeForce cards. And the GeForce does support CUDA. I use a GTX 960 myself. Exactly what MC does on the GPU is known only to Avid.

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  • Fri, Jul 7 2017 4:16 PM In reply to

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    That would be a great feature request. A timeline GPU usage meter...

    I guess the only issue would be users posting the meter was broken and wasn't working...

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