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  • Thu, Jun 4 2015 4:50 AM

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    Any experience with the S3 audio control surface?

    I'm considering the Avid S3 audio 16 channel control surface, for dual use with Avid MC 8.3 and dedicated audio editing. Wondering if anyone has Pro or Con experience using the S3? Thanks.

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  • Thu, Jun 4 2015 5:35 AM In reply to

    Re: Any experience with the S3 audio control surface?

    You may be better to Join (if you havent already) the Pro Audio Community forums here  and then post in the dedicate Protools S3 forum found here 

  • Fri, Jun 5 2015 5:20 AM In reply to

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    Re: Any experience with the S3 audio control surface?

    Thanks for your reply Andrew. I posted here because I'm interested in using the S3 with MC 8.3.

    I'm OK with the audio side, which is what the S3 was designed for.

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  • Fri, Jun 5 2015 6:42 AM In reply to

    Re: Any experience with the S3 audio control surface?

    newyankee:
    I posted here because I'm interested in using the S3 with MC 8.3.
    Sure but I have yet to see anyone here talk about the S3.    In the S3 forums you have people using them daily and probably some at least will work in Audio Post. So figurered you are more likely to find someone there with the video experience you are looking for or would know who to ask.

    FWIW Avid's Tom Graham could be another good source.

  • Sat, Jun 6 2015 5:27 AM In reply to

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    Re: Any experience with the S3 audio control surface?

    Thanks Andrew, you have been most helpful. Will follow your advice.

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  • Tue, Jul 21 2015 6:21 AM In reply to

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    Re: Any experience with the S3 audio control surface?

    Thought I would update this thread, after purchasing a S3.

    I followed Andrew's advice and read the Pro Tools S3 forum. The S3 seemed like a disaster up throught March 2015, but the EuCon 3.2.2 release fixed a number of serious problems.

    If you look at the S3/ Pro Tools video's, there are plenty of features that make audio editing a dream. But, when connected to Avid MC 8.3, the S3 is nothing more than a 16 channel artist mix. That's it. The Artist mix functionality is repeated exactly in the S3, but none of the S3 signature features carry through.

    As advertised, the S3 can only coexist with the Artist Transport, (ie no Artist Color), but you can turn off the S3 and start the Artist Color while a project is open. (You may have to restart Eucon applications, but you can move back and forth,... S3, Artist Mix, Artist Color, etc)

    So  if you want 16 channels of audio editing in Media Composer, it may be less expensive to investigate using two Artist Mixes.

    In my case, I rolled the dice with the hope of it working with CuBase 8. To my surprise, the S3 works extreemly well with CuBase, perhaps just as well as Pro Tools. With the exception of a minor level meter issue, all of the signature S3 functions I tried match perfectly with the Cubase 8 platform.

    The S3 is most likely the best 5K$ audio control surface, but Media Composer has a long way to go to tap into it's potential.

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    Re: Any experience with the S3 audio control surface?

    thanks for sharing the issues.

     

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    Re: Any experience with the S3 audio control surface?

    Newyankee

    I passed this along to the product manager for S3 and MC.   Thanks for writing this up..... 

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  • Tue, Jul 21 2015 9:58 PM In reply to

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    Re: Any experience with the S3 audio control surface?

    Marianna,

    I posted my experience since maybe I'm the only one using an S3 with Media Composer. It would be "nice" if more S3 features were enabled in Media Composer, but the Artist Mix feature set work perfectly well in the S3. Serious audio editing is perhaps best done with Pro Tools or Cubase, and quite honestly I would favor Avid focusing on video development first.

    To be clear, I am pleased with both Media Composer 8.x and the S3. Both offer more potential than I can use.

    :)

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  • Thu, Oct 13 2016 4:34 PM In reply to

    Re: Any experience with the S3 audio control surface?

    I know this is an old thread, but I'd love to hear if there has been any development on this. Have more of the abilities of the s3 been ported to MC?

     

    I've been very interested in a mixing controller in MC for a while now, and am dipping my toe in the water with an old Command 8 I ordered off ebay. If it is as useful as I think it will be, I may jump to an s3 - but only if the channel meters work. My ideal situation would be to completely remove the software Audio Mixer from my screen, and I can only do that if those individual channel meters on the s3 work.

     

    Otherwise, there doesn't seem to be much difference between the old Command 8 and the new Artist Mix.

     

    Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated.

     

    Vince Anido, ACE

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