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  • Sun, Jul 3 2011 9:14 PM

    • Helena Trix
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    Conforming 50FPS to 25FPS.. the right way..?

    Hi Avid Community!

    I have a small question:
    I have footage shot with the 5DMKII at 50FPS, because it is meant for slow-motion in the timeline.
    I just imported the footage into my bin after consolidating from .h264 to DNxHD 185 X 

    And it plays at regular speed. But I want a slowmotion.
    Now I did look around the forum here to look for an answer but I couldn't find a helpful one.

    I messed around with the timewarp tool and set it to 50% and then I had to trim the end of the clip in the timeline so that the WHOLE clip was made into slow-motion instead only half.

    This whole timewarping and trimming process seemed ridiculously time consuming to me. So I figured I must be doing something wrong. 

    in conclusion: Can I conform the clips to 25FPS so they are already slow-motion in the source monitor instead of timewarping it and trimming it in the timeline?

    Thank you for your help in advance!

     

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  • Sun, Jul 3 2011 9:35 PM In reply to

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    Re: Conforming 50FPS to 25FPS.. the right way..?

    You can avoid Media Composer adding motion effects to non-native speed clips on the timeline by going to the Console and typing: IgnoreQTrate true  and then importing the QuickTime movie rather than using AMA.

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  • Sun, Jul 3 2011 9:56 PM In reply to

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    Re: Conforming 50FPS to 25FPS.. the right way..?

    hbrock:

    You can avoid Media Composer adding motion effects to non-native speed clips on the timeline by going to the Console and typing: IgnoreQTrate true  and then importing the QuickTime movie rather than using AMA.

    Thank You hbrock. I am a newbie with MC 5.0.. So can you help me find "the console" and how it works exactly?
    Thanks in advance. 

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  • Sun, Jul 3 2011 10:17 PM In reply to

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    Re: Conforming 50FPS to 25FPS.. the right way..?

    Tools menu: select Console

    In the window that opens type: IgnoreQTrate true

    You should get an acknowledgement.  If so, import the clip.

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  • Sun, Jul 3 2011 11:05 PM In reply to

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    Re: Conforming 50FPS to 25FPS.. the right way..?

    hbrock:

    Tools menu: select Console

    In the window that opens type: IgnoreQTrate true

    You should get an acknowledgement.  If so, import the clip.

    Thank you! I know got the message "IgnoreQTRate is set to: True."
    How do I turn it back "off" to default again? (for the future) 

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  • Mon, Jul 4 2011 7:54 PM In reply to

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    Re: Conforming 50FPS to 25FPS.. the right way..?

    Anyone please? How to change it back?
    By the way, I hope they fix this method in a newer version of MC. I think it's a bit old fashioned to enter commands into a program like ''MS DOS"; Just a thought! 

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  • Mon, Jul 4 2011 9:11 PM In reply to

    Re: Conforming 50FPS to 25FPS.. the right way..?

    Helena Trix:

    hbrock:

    Tools menu: select Console

    In the window that opens type: IgnoreQTrate true

    You should get an acknowledgement.  If so, import the clip.

    Thank you! I know got the message "IgnoreQTRate is set to: True."
    How do I turn it back "off" to default again? (for the future) 

     

    IgnoreQTRate false

    The console isn't a user interface desgned for day to day use. It's there to allow for this sort of unexpected need to chaneg the MC operations. Ideally features like ignoreQTrate should be moved to better UI selections within the interface.

     

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    Re: Conforming 50FPS to 25FPS.. the right way..?

    And the command only works until you relaunch the Avid.

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    Re: Conforming 50FPS to 25FPS.. the right way..?

    Thank you for your information both of you! Smile

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    Re: Conforming 50FPS to 25FPS.. the right way..?

    What happens when you use AMA to link to the H.264 file while in a 25fps project? When I shoot 50fps on my P2 camera and link to the footage it plays back in slo-mo automatically in 25fps projects. Is it possible to change the frame rate in the of the quicktime in one of the bin columns?

    While the ignoreqtrate console command works, I don't think this is the intended method for this situation - I'm not in front of my Avid now though so I could be wrong.

    good luck,

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    Re: Conforming 50FPS to 25FPS.. the right way..?

    P2 is different from H.264 AMA sources as it allows for off-speed shots to be flagged and treated appropriately.  

    The IgnoreQTRate console command only works in QuickTime movies brought in via Import.  

    You can't modify the frame rate in a bin column to affect these changes.

    Other than that, you are correct.

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  • Thu, Aug 11 2011 4:05 PM In reply to

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    Re: Conforming 50FPS to 25FPS.. the right way..?

    Hey there,

    I think this might be the solution for me but if anyone could confirm I'd appreciate it.

     

    We filmed some shots on a 5D at 50fps, our project is 25fps PAL using HDCAM normaly.

    When I link to AMA files the desired shots they are playing in 50fps, when I want to transcode them AVID wants me to convert to the projects settings of 25fps.

    What's the best step from here to get back to my nice slow motion shots?

     

    Using console or going through the timewarp method?

     

    Thanks guys

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    Re: Conforming 50FPS to 25FPS.. the right way..?

    Use the console command and import the files.  

    AMA will always attempt to conform the frame rate to the project settings.  You can promote the motion effect to a timewarp and slow it down to 50% I suppose, but the import method just plays every frame as intended without having to resort to additional steps.

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  • Fri, Aug 12 2011 9:20 AM In reply to

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    Re: Conforming 50FPS to 25FPS.. the right way..?

    There is one important condition for succesfull import with IgnoreQTRate. QuickTime movie must not have any audio track.

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  • Fri, Aug 12 2011 7:19 PM In reply to

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    Re: Conforming 50FPS to 25FPS.. the right way..?

    That's great, thanks for the advice folks.

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