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  • Sat, Sep 25 2010 2:51 AM

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    EDITING HDV: is it best to capture in DV25 and batch capture later, or capture HDV and transcode to DV25, relinking after edit?

    I've captured some of my project in HDV but the video is very chunky when I scrub through the timeline which makes chopping the video difficult. I'm assuming my system is just not powerful enough to edit HDV smoothly? So I know an option is to capture in DV25 for editing and then batch capture HDV after, but I did that on my last project and had many recapturing problems.

    Is a good option to capture in HDV and then transcode everything to DV25 for editing and then relinking all clips in my sequence to the original HDV? Have any of you had many problems doing it that way?

    I know the other option is to capture in HDV and then transcode everything to DNxHD but that takes up huge drive space and I'll be capturing 28 hours of video.

    What do you recommend is a good workflow for editing HDV?

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  • Sat, Sep 25 2010 2:06 PM In reply to

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    Re: EDITING HDV: is it best to capture in DV25 and batch capture later, or capture HDV and transcode to DV25, relinking after edit?

    yes that will work (DV  first). I did it until I got a better quadro fx and didn't need to do it anymore. that should be your long-term goal, to get a proper graphics card. try to find a cheap one on ebay. barring that, batch capture is fine and should be frame-accurate. i'd suggest doing a test first with a couple of short clips...                      sasha

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  • Sat, Sep 25 2010 2:50 PM In reply to

    Re: EDITING HDV: is it best to capture in DV25 and batch capture later, or capture HDV and transcode to DV25, relinking after edit?

    I recently upgraded to MC5.0 on a new Dell T3500 and now whenever I have to edit HDV, the trim preview always lags. Are you saying that if I get a better video card this problem will go away?

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  • Sat, Sep 25 2010 8:23 PM In reply to

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    Re: EDITING HDV: is it best to capture in DV25 and batch capture later, or capture HDV and transcode to DV25, relinking after edit?

    weekender, batch capture works very well ever since it was first introduced, make sure You properly name the tapes, and if there are TC resets cheat a new tape name, so if You're on tape 007 make 007a 007b 007c and so on: when batch capturing everything will be fine. 

    rfmeredith, the Quadro 580 in Your sys specs is up to the job.

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  • Sat, Sep 25 2010 8:57 PM In reply to

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    Re: EDITING HDV: is it best to capture in DV25 and batch capture later, or capture HDV and transcode to DV25, relinking after edit?

    when I went from an older Dell workstation with an FX 570 or 580 to a T3400 with an FX1700, HDV just worked, whereas it was laggy and unpredictable before. I'm still at MC 3.5 and HDV is as easy to edit as DV25. I can play HDV full screen which was impossible before. that's my experience...

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  • Sat, Sep 25 2010 9:09 PM In reply to

    Re: EDITING HDV: is it best to capture in DV25 and batch capture later, or capture HDV and transcode to DV25, relinking after edit?

    I was on a Dell 670 dual proc  Win XP with Quadro FX 1400 and MC 4, HDV trims went smoothly, no lagging. Now am on T3500, Quad core, Win 7 Quadro FX 580 and MC5 but I get a lag every time I use trim tool on HDV.

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  • Tue, Sep 28 2010 3:07 AM In reply to

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    Re: EDITING HDV: is it best to capture in DV25 and batch capture later, or capture HDV and transcode to DV25, relinking after edit?

    So I eliminated my problem of having video that is too chunky and difficult to scrub around the timeline. I was previously capturing to an external hard drive via firewire 800 and now I captured some hdv video on a hard drive that is installed in my computer with sata and now the video scrubs smoothly along the timeline. That's it! I'm very thankful I will no longer need to batch capture my project after editing.

     

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  • Tue, Sep 28 2010 8:01 AM In reply to

    Re: EDITING HDV: is it best to capture in DV25 and batch capture later, or capture HDV and transcode to DV25, relinking after edit?

    are you running win 64 bits? In that case 4 Gb internal mem might be a bit low

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  • Tue, Sep 28 2010 3:35 PM In reply to

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    Re: EDITING HDV: is it best to capture in DV25 and batch capture later, or capture HDV and transcode to DV25, relinking after edit?

    I have similar issue. i have edited documentary film in SD (PAL 25i, it was edited for DVD), which was originaly filmed in HDV. Now the broadcast company would like broadcast this film in HD. So I need recapture new source in HDV (the same tape, not converted to SD in desk). Because there is abou twenty hours of source material, I would like capture in HDV only footage already used in final sequence. What is the best workflow to do it?

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  • Tue, Sep 28 2010 3:57 PM In reply to

    Re: EDITING HDV: is it best to capture in DV25 and batch capture later, or capture HDV and transcode to DV25, relinking after edit?

    weekender:

    So I eliminated my problem of having video that is too chunky and difficult to scrub around the timeline. I was previously capturing to an external hard drive via firewire 800 and now I captured some hdv video on a hard drive that is installed in my computer with sata and now the video scrubs smoothly along the timeline. That's it! I'm very thankful I will no longer need to batch capture my project after editing.

    Glad to hear. Something else I would have suggested was capturing in HDV still and either transcoding to DNxHD or editing in low quality, I would do either of those on my older system.

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  • Tue, Sep 28 2010 3:58 PM In reply to

    Re: EDITING HDV: is it best to capture in DV25 and batch capture later, or capture HDV and transcode to DV25, relinking after edit?

    Lemuriatv:

    I would like capture in HDV only footage already used in final sequence. What is the best workflow to do it?

    There a re a few ways to do it. This is probablly the easiest way...

    Make a duplicate of your sequence, selected it and choose "batch capture". It will only capture the material used plus handles.

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  • Tue, Sep 28 2010 4:48 PM In reply to

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    Re: EDITING HDV: is it best to capture in DV25 and batch capture later, or capture HDV and transcode to DV25, relinking after edit?

    Scott Carnegie:

    Lemuriatv:

    I would like capture in HDV only footage already used in final sequence. What is the best workflow to do it?

    There a re a few ways to do it. This is probablly the easiest way...

    Make a duplicate of your sequence, selected it and choose "batch capture". It will only capture the material used plus handles.

    Thank you Scott. What about format? Is it better to simply change format a then make batch capture or create new HDV project, open bin with sequence and then batch capture?

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  • Tue, Sep 28 2010 6:52 PM In reply to

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    Re: EDITING HDV: is it best to capture in DV25 and batch capture later, or capture HDV and transcode to DV25, relinking after edit?

    Lemuriatv, duplicate the sequence in a new bin, remove the audio tracks to reduce the batch digitize time; decompose the sequence, this will bring it offline: in case batch digitize is aborted/interrupted You'll be able to start again where You left off, when the capture is completed marry back the video sequence with the audio tracks.

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  • Wed, Sep 29 2010 5:36 PM In reply to

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    Re: EDITING HDV: is it best to capture in DV25 and batch capture later, or capture HDV and transcode to DV25, relinking after edit?

    Thank you Luca, I will try it.

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