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  • Mon, Nov 7 2005 8:31 PM

    • alban
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    turning 25p into 24fps

    we got a sweet 20´´  cinema ad to produce.

    we will shoot in 25p with the DVX100A (PAL) and "unfortunately" need to go out to 35mm - 24fps.

    there are 3 options i consider:

    - edit in Liquid and export a TIFF-series for the transfer house. they will then simply expose frame by frame, i need to speed up audio 4%.

    - edit in Liquid and create a 24p timeline (that should be possible, no?). then i export to frames again and change the audio.

    - go to a friend, waste parts of my budget and do it in FCP. basically also import the 25p into a 24p timeline and let Apple do the rest.

    Waht do you guys think is the best way (and don´t tell me i should buy Xpress Pro...)

     

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  • Mon, Nov 7 2005 9:40 PM In reply to

    • Smetvid
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    Re: turning 25p into 24fps

    PAL users are lucky in the fact that your framerate is much closer to 24p.

     

    I would work with a 25p project or better yet a 50i DV project.  This way you will be able to preview all of your edits on your TV through firewire or the bob if you have one.  All editing will work as normal.  When finished copy everything from your 50i sequence and place into a 25p sequence.  (The reason for this is that I am not sure if the bob or firewire will playback a 25p sequence.)  You can now export your 25p video and send off to transfer or if you have after effects you can interpolate the 25p video into a 24p video yourself and then shift the audio by 4%.

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  • Mon, Nov 7 2005 10:09 PM In reply to

    • Peter Rubino
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    Re: turning 25p into 24fps

    OK...well...Xpress is out of the picture.  Perhaps wait for Liquid 8?  Wink [;)]

    Unfortunately, I don't think the very limited 24p in Liquid is going to work for you.  It will probably cause more headaches trying to tweak if it even works at all.

    Do you have a copy of Premiere Pro or Vegas handy?  Perhaps make the upgrade and keep everything in house?  You can upgrade to the latest of either product for $199.  Perhaps that's better than outsourcing and tainting the project on a Mac!  Wink [;)]

    One word...eBay.  Big Smile [:D]

    Or...simply do what Smet suggested.

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  • Tue, Nov 8 2005 6:56 AM In reply to

    • alban
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    Re: turning 25p into 24fps

    lol, didn´t even think about after effects. of course, that´s it. thanks guys.
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  • Wed, Nov 9 2005 7:34 AM In reply to

    • alban
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    Re: turning 25p into 24fps

    just adding this for future reference for others:

    talked to the transfer house:

    i shoot in 25p, letterbox 4:3, thin mode.

    bring the footage into a 16:9 timeline; fit X keep aspect

    then i deliver a TIFF sequence and a uncompressedwavfile. they do the timestretch. it costs a bit more, but will qualitywise be the best solution.

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