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  • Mon, Jun 17 2019 3:52 PM In reply to

    • DonE
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    Re: XAVC vs DNxHR performance

    Terry Snyder:

    So 3Gbps SATA only gives 225?   Why not 300?   (Sorry if it's a dumb question...I'm a filmmaker, not a computer expert.)

    Your mileage may vary. That's just a quick read test on a similar system. Write speed tends to be higher. SATA overhead may also play into the results. Try downloading the AJA Sys Test found at: https://www.aja.com/products/aja-system-test and test your current SSD.

    Terry Snyder:

    I've had a USB 3.0 PCIe card since I got the machine, using it with USB 3.0 external G-drives for backup.   It seems to work just as well as the internal drives, but I've only used it with 1080p media.

    Maybe you know someone with a T5 and you could test it. Internal would cost less but the PCIe card could perform better.

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  • Mon, Jun 17 2019 5:09 PM In reply to

    • Lukas Boeck
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    Re: XAVC vs DNxHR performance

    Yeah, get another ssd to render to.

     

    I'd strongly suggest internal.

    imho never mind the reduced sata 3 speed. Is good enough for now, a bit better in your next machine.

    most ssds will only burst at sata 6 speed, drop to pretty much sata 3 speed in prolonged reads anyway.

     

    If you have enogh sata ports now, you can get 2 ssds and put them in a raid-0.

    don't know your storage requirements in TB, I guess long term plan would be hardware raid with 4-8 mechanical drives.

    The onboard raid 5 you tried was useless, hardware controller card is teh bomb.

    and only then maybe a new workstation down the road. Progress in that department has been somewhat underwhelming the last few years.

     

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  • Mon, Jun 24 2019 3:02 PM In reply to

    Re: XAVC vs DNxHR performance

    Lukas Boeck:

    I'd strongly suggest internal.

    imho never mind the reduced sata 3 speed. Is good enough for now, a bit better in your next machine.

    most ssds will only burst at sata 6 speed, drop to pretty much sata 3 speed in prolonged reads anyway.

    I found a good price on a 2 TB Samsung 860 EVO to replace one of my internal 7200rpm mechanical media drives.   My Z800 is only Sata II, but I've been reading that Sata III is backwards compatible, so should I be able to use it in the Z800?

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  • Mon, Jun 24 2019 3:46 PM In reply to

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    Re: XAVC vs DNxHR performance

    The EVO 860 will run on SATA II, topping out at 3Gbs.

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  • Mon, Jun 24 2019 5:07 PM In reply to

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    Re: XAVC vs DNxHR performance

    Terry Snyder:

    I found a good price on a 2 TB Samsung 860 EVO to replace one of my internal 7200rpm mechanical media drives.

    If a fast, a bit insecure volume of that size makes sense in your setup, go right ahead.

    I personally go for extremes, I'd do 2-3 500GB 860 pro drives  in a speed raid down the road. really fast, really insecure. augmented by fairly safe raid from mechanical Hdds

    If 2TB covers your avg project size and you do'nt have a problem if the drive fails, then this might be for you.

    And if a single 2TB SSD doesn't make sense in your next setup, you'll end up with a terrific external ssd ;)

     

     

     

     

     

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  • Sat, Jun 29 2019 11:46 PM In reply to

    Re: XAVC vs DNxHR performance

    Follow up:  I replaced one of my Z800's 7200rpm media drives with the EVO 860 SSD.  I did get some improvement, nothing spectacular, but probably the best I can get with my Z800's motherboard.  At least I kicked some new life into the old beast and extended it's life until I'm in the position to get a new workstation.  

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  • Sun, Jun 30 2019 12:40 AM In reply to

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    Re: XAVC vs DNxHR performance

    I have a W7 Z800 (and some Z400s). I put in a SSD and 96GB RAM. Seemed a bit snappier. I'm going to go to 2019.6 and was wondering if i should go to W10 before I do. I'm semi-retired. I'll do part time work for 5-7 years so I wonder if going to W10 is worth it. Thoughts?

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  • Sun, Jun 30 2019 4:47 AM In reply to

    Re: XAVC vs DNxHR performance

    I had a bad experience upgrading an older Win 7 computer to Win 10.  The drivers were never right.   The Z800 is an older, pre-Windows 10 workstation, so I'm not sure if the optimal Win 10 drivers were written for that machine.  I'm going to stay on Win 7 as long as my Z800 is still kicking.   But others who are more computer savvy may feel differently.

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  • Sun, Jun 30 2019 7:56 PM In reply to

    • Lukas Boeck
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    Re: XAVC vs DNxHR performance

    With win7 EOL soon, win 10 is worth a shot if you're reinstalling anyway.

    Yes older systems can run into problems with 10, my guess is that z800 is new enough though. plattform was EOL in 2012.

    Maybe check if you can get drivers for your GPU first.

     

     

     

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