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  • Fri, Jan 25 2019 10:55 PM

    • slugman
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    *WARNING* D-Verb Audio Suite Effect will break your speakers!

    I've been using Avid nearly everyday for 12 years, I've rarely had a positive opinion of it, but today I am really pissed off at this utterly garbage software. 

    I'm on a band new 2018 MacBook Pro 15"

    I dropped the D-verb AudioSuite effect on to a song in my timeline, clip was already dropped to -23db, speaker volume was 50%. I left the settings at their defaults, clicked Preview, and a nightmare sound exploded from my speakers. PVKKVKVKVXVXVVXXKVXKVKVK

    I immediately stopped it within a sec, but it was too late. Speakers now are quiet and crackly. Broken.

    That's right, Avid's default effect broke my speakers. Will you pay for this Avid? Huh? Your software is trash, I hate it so much.

  • Sat, Jan 26 2019 10:21 AM In reply to

    • Bruno M
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    Re: *WARNING* D-Verb Audio Suite Effect will break your speakers!

    slugman:
    I've been using Avid nearly everyday for 12 years, I've rarely had a positive opinion of it

    Seems an awfully long time to work with something you so obviously dislike!

     

    slugman:

    Speakers now are quiet and crackly. Broken. That's right, Avid's default effect broke my speakers.

     

    I don't think you can blame Avid for breaking your speakers. This sort of thing happens all the time in the world of editing and audio generally. How many times have I heard massive howl-round during sound checks? If this consistantly destroyed the speakers we would have all complained to the manufacturers.

    The sad truth is that Apple is to blame if their speakers can be destroyed by a sudden overload. It would only cost them a few cents extra to incorporate circuitry to protect against this.

    I'm not suggesting that constantly playing eccessively loud audio on laptop speakers won't shorten their life - that's just the laws of physics. But not to offer some sort of limiting on the speaker levels is just asking for trouble.

    I've not been impressed with the latest Macbook Pro's. The quality and durability of the components has really become something we'd expect in cheap PC laptops. If you don't believe me, have a look at Louis Rossman's YouTube channel, where he's often pointing out some of the poor design inside Mac laptops.

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  • Sat, Jan 26 2019 7:45 PM In reply to

    • slugman
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    Re: *WARNING* D-Verb Audio Suite Effect will break your speakers!

    That's complete crap, this is 100% Avids fault, it's not even up for debate. Everything  was configured in the bestbcase senerio. If it didn't break the speakers, and I was wearing headphones, it would have broke my ears. 

    These guys made software that is so bad it physically broke hardware. This post is an airing of grievance and a warning to everyone else.

  • Sat, Jan 26 2019 9:42 PM In reply to

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    Re: *WARNING* D-Verb Audio Suite Effect will break your speakers!

    Hi slugman,

       I’m very sorry that you’re having issues with our product, can you email with so I can create a ticket and have this check out by the technical team.

     

     

     

    Thanks,

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  • Sun, Jan 27 2019 4:55 PM In reply to

    Re: *WARNING* D-Verb Audio Suite Effect will break your speakers!

    i use dverb every day religioulsy and have never came across anything like this. 

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  • Mon, Jan 28 2019 11:04 PM In reply to

    • slugman
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    Re: *WARNING* D-Verb Audio Suite Effect will break your speakers!

    I've taken my MacBook Pro in for service, luckily it was still under warrenty. But I am still enormously inconvienienced. Before I took it in, I did double check if it was still doing this, it was. But there is no way in hell I'm trying that again. Below are more details.

    MacBook Pro 15" 2018, MacOS 10.14.2 (Qualified)

    Avid Media Composer 2018.12

    Project: 1080p 29.97

    Music: imported .wav files with -15db gain applied, mixed to -23db

    D-Verb was applied with default settings

    Like I said, I've been using Avid for over 12 years, for the last 5 years my job has been specically to troubleshoot Avid systems. I know every bug and issue in avid since version 4, I've never experienced such a bad one. There has so be a way to prevent the software from outputting such a harmful signal, please prioritize a fix!

  • Mon, Jan 28 2019 11:39 PM In reply to

    • Leo Baker
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    Re: *WARNING* D-Verb Audio Suite Effect will break your speakers!

    Hello,

    I've never had such an issue, maybe you had an hardware fault at the exact same time? So it looks like it was due to the D-Verb audio plugin with Avid? Did ity always do this or just the once?

    Kind regards,

    Leo

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  • Wed, Feb 6 2019 9:09 PM In reply to

    Re: *WARNING* D-Verb Audio Suite Effect will break your speakers!

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  • Thu, Feb 7 2019 3:25 PM In reply to

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    Re: *WARNING* D-Verb Audio Suite Effect will break your speakers!

    I guess the fact that you are adding FX's and listening on a laptop speaker ... How could you tell what it sounded like anyway?   I mix on genlecs with d-verb adds all the time no issues at all . If you are having unity gain issues I would look at your set up as a verb will not increase additive gain...Not to mention that the apple laptops have a amp sized to the speakers so full volume will not Blow the tweeters....But you can always put a limiter on the output fader in the mixer app....  

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  • Fri, Feb 8 2019 4:33 AM In reply to

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    Re: *WARNING* D-Verb Audio Suite Effect will break your speakers!

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  • Fri, Feb 8 2019 6:09 PM In reply to

    • Isaac T.
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    Re: *WARNING* D-Verb Audio Suite Effect will break your speakers!

    @All: you should really check out that Adobe Forum thread from the macrumors.com article.

    https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2565401

    Adobe just issued this statement on that thread:

    We have made the appropriate teams at Adobe aware of this issue and are actively investigating it. We will post here immediately once we have identified the best course of action.

    The deadly combo seems to be:

    • Mac's with the T2 Security Chip

    • macOS Mojave

    Then there's this article on users with pro audio interfaces being affected by a Mac with a T2:

    https://appleinsider.com/articles/19/02/07/apples-t2-proving-troublesome-for-some-professional-audio-interface-users

     

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