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  • Sun, Dec 2 2018 7:35 PM

    • Matthew Clulow
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    MC FIRST export resources / Export time

    I'm studying MC FIrst with the intent of upgrading to the purhcased version.  So far, I realy like it and I'm about ready to make the move. 

    My theory is, if MC First works on this older machine, so will MC Purchase. It's a duel boot machine that already runs an older version of MC and it works fine.

    The MCFIRST timeline function and colour edits work well on the alternate BOOT supporting MCFIRST.

    Rendering works about the same pace as the older version.

    Howver, exporting, even a basic AVID option to the hard drive takes an inordanant amout of time. So far it's 1:30:13 to export a 12 minute, mark-in-to-mark-out part of  timeline. ON this machine, it shouldn't take anywhere near that amount of time.

    QUESTION:  What resources does the export process use> Is it the CPU, Video CArd, RAM, or all of the above?

    I know this system needs more RAM to run, I am weighing the option of upgrading this machine vs the killer expense of a new AVID certified model.

     

     

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  • Sun, Dec 2 2018 7:50 PM In reply to

    • Matthew Clulow
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    Re: MC FIRST export resources / Export time

    Another thought,  I have always worked with clips from the Cannon XF305 at 50mbps. This timline is using a mix of that with other clips from an FS7M2 @ 1080 /30 XAVC-L

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  • Sun, Dec 2 2018 8:08 PM In reply to

    • Matthew Clulow
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    Re: MC FIRST export resources / Export time

    http://avid.force.com/pkb/articles/en_US/compatibility/en365919?popup=true  

    I thnk I answered my one question.  On this page I see a note saying AVC INTRA is CPU intensive.  Thtat may lead to a new machine

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  • Sun, Dec 2 2018 8:23 PM In reply to

    • Matthew Clulow
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    Re: MC FIRST export resources / Export time

    RE EXPORT TIME:   It appears this export time is related to the fact that it ignored the markin and mark out function and exported the entire timeline to a 45gb QT file.

    The workflow is a non-starter until I deal with system resources and find a method of compressing the output for web uploading.

     

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  • Mon, Dec 3 2018 9:30 AM In reply to

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    Re: MC FIRST export resources / Export time

    The workflow is a non-starter until I deal with system resources and find a method of compressing the output for web uploading.

     

    Simply export to DNxHD.

  • Mon, Dec 3 2018 1:56 PM In reply to

    Re: MC FIRST export resources / Export time

    My suggested workflow would be to mixdown the vidoe and audio to a new sequence.

    For the video mixdown chose a suitable codec (depending on nthe resolution you need for export)

    Then do a same as source export.

    Then use an external transcoding application to make H264 or whatever you need from that. The SAS file becomes your Master to archive and keep.

    Using the custom option in the export dialogue is impractical as you have discovered.

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  • Mon, Dec 3 2018 2:01 PM In reply to

    • Matthew Clulow
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    Re: MC FIRST export resources / Export time

    Thanks Pat. This makes sense. Not sure I saw same-as-source option but I'll have another go at this. 

    I was hoping to avoid a lot of extra steps (time is money), but it least it might work.

     

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  • Mon, Dec 3 2018 2:15 PM In reply to

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    Re: MC FIRST export resources / Export time

    Thx Tommix:  

    My comment about workflow goes beyond export, and isn't a relfection on MCFIRST.

    My problem begins with the decision to go with an untested camera source, all the way through to the end user display. 

    Old AVID won't link or ingest the new camera codec.  So I tried MCFIRST & that part was painless.

    The basic edit process with MCFIRST works  better than OLD AVID, so I decided to move forward to NEW AVID rather than transcode the clips to fit OLD AVID.

    I'm testing MCFIRST as a midstep toward buying NEW AVIDMC Liscese - my assumption is, if MCFIRST works on this machine then NEW AVIDMC LISCNECE will too. I'm trying to avoid buying a new machine at the moment.

    I can export to DNX HD but then my OLD compression software wont read the output file so now I am struggling to adapt to that change ---while the deadline looms large. 

    Time is money so I'm looking for the path with the fewest steps.  Change is hard

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