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  • Fri, Apr 3 2015 11:14 AM

    • FalloutBoY
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    Offline Editing

    Hey there.

     

    I know this topping is pretty common and there are a lot of Posts, but none of them is matching mine. Or I just didn't found it. Ok. I'll try to be as detailed as possible. That's my problem:

     

    I got Canon 5D H.264 Material in 1080p/25p. I am not able to edit this "online". So I was looking for a way to edit "offline". I have never done it before. So I google "AVID AMA Offline" and get this tutorial:

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj4Gwvojxb4

     

    Sounded pretty nice to me. So here is what I've done:

     

    1. Project created. (1080p/25p)

    2. AMA-Linked to my material (H.264 1080p/25p)

    3. Changed my project format to 25i PAL

    3.1. [[[Now, all the clips in my timeline have green dots]]]

    4. Transcoded the AMA-Linked material to 20:1 MXF (I don't know if I changed settings in the "Consolidate/Transcode"-window)

    5. I make my edit

    6. I duplicate the sequence into my "Relink" bin.

    7. Rename my "Avid Media Files" Folder

    7.1. [[[Now, all media is offline]]]

    8. I change the project format back to 1080p/25p

    8.1. [[[still got green dots on my timeline]]]

    9. Right click into my "Relink" bin

    9.1. Click "Set Bin Display"

    9.2. Check "Show reference clips"

    9.2. Klick O.K.

    10. I select all my clips (in my "Relink" bin)

    10.1. Right click on 'em

    10.2. Click "Batch Import..."

    10.3. Choose "offline only"

    10.4. Select all the clips in the "Batch import" dialouge

    10.5. Select my video Resolution "DNxHD 120 MXF"

    10.6. Leave "Use source compression for OMFI" and "Override clip settings with current settings" unchecked and hit "Import"

    10.7. [[[My PC is working quite a long time ]]]

    11. I get this:

    11.1. So I open up the console (ctrl+6)

     

    11.2. [[[As you can see I aborted the batch import. But you can see the problem a few lines above]]]

     

    11.3.

    "Batch import clip 1 of 71 FAILED: LAKR0118.new.01 with error:

    Exception:Cannot quick import a mixed resolution Quick Time Movie."

     

    I've already read it might be a wrong error message about hard drive space. But it's not the hard drive space. I've tried it on two other drives with about 1,6 TB. Same problem.

     

    What I want to do: Relink my SD-Project to the HD-Material I began with.

     

    If I try to "Relink" the media I get the following message:

     

     

    I have Avid 7.0.

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  • Fri, Apr 3 2015 11:18 AM In reply to

    • mjolnarn
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    Re: Offline Editing

    Why do you switch to interlaced for your offline if you media is progressive , 25p would be a better choice .

    There are also pretty good offline HD codecs nowadays

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    Tomas 

     

  • Fri, Apr 3 2015 11:26 AM In reply to

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    Re: Offline Editing

    'Cause I'm part of those guys who just do what other guys on YouTube tell them ;)

     

    As I said, I've never edited offline before and this tutorial looked pretty fine and for him it worked. So I just did what Kev Corr did.

     

    But as you mention it:

     

    I've already tried different ways of "AMA-Linking", "Consolidating/Transcoding" and "Batch importing" but none of those ways worked. Even when I stay progressive. In the end I get the same error messages.

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  • Fri, Apr 3 2015 11:31 AM In reply to

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    Re: Offline Editing

    Just bumped an oldie of mine, might be worth some studies instead of going Youtube

    http://community.avid.com/forums/p/115980/754343.aspx#754343

     

     

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    Tomas 

     

  • Fri, Apr 3 2015 11:35 AM In reply to

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    Re: Offline Editing

    Thnks, mate. I'll study it. But first I got to save my project. Do you have any ideas?

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  • Fri, Apr 3 2015 11:37 AM In reply to

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    Re: Offline Editing

    Tut 3 , or maybe 4 , might get you up and running in 15 minutes

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    Tomas 

     

  • Fri, Apr 3 2015 11:56 AM In reply to

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    Re: Offline Editing

    3 & 4 didn't helped me at all. Do you have any ideas how to solve my problems or not?

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  • Fri, Apr 3 2015 12:15 PM In reply to

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    Re: Offline Editing

    FalloutBoY:
     Do you have any ideas how to solve my problems or not?

    Obviously there are some ideas in those tutorials , this is what I do , successfully, daily.

    If those doesn´t work for you it might be worth a try to switch the 1080 p project , that uncorrectly was offlined as interlaced, to 1080 i to get rid of the motion adapters , and then try a new relink .

    If that relink works just switch it to progressive again and update motion adapters in refresh sequense

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  • Fri, Apr 3 2015 12:20 PM In reply to

    Re: Offline Editing

    Hi,

    Take a look at the post by Alexandru Radu in this thread: http://community.avid.com/forums/p/125401/718553.aspx

    Alexandru Radu:

    Hi there,

    I just found an option for your workflow in Avid MC 7.0.4 that workes very nice.

    1. AMA import all the H264 clips

    2. Transcode them to DNxHD32 - move them in a different bin

    3. Edit with the DNxHD footage

    4. Close all the DNxHD bins and open the AMA bins and select all the ama clips in all the bins.

    5. Relink your sequence with the option Selected items in ALL open bins on - this will relink the DNxHD sequence to the original AMA files. Retranscode the AMA sequence to a high res DNxHD and go to DaVinci and back with AAF.

    Tell me if it works for you as well.

    Cheers,

    Alexandru

    Where he writes "DNxHD 32" change that to DNxHD 36 for your workflow, which hopefully your system will be able to play without problems.  Also, ignore the part about AAF and DaVinci because you're not doing that. Hope that makes sense.
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  • Fri, Apr 3 2015 12:53 PM In reply to

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    Re: Offline Editing

    What means "uncorrectly was offlined as interlaced"?

     

    No matter what Format settings I switch to: The Motion adapters stay. Always.

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  • Fri, Apr 3 2015 12:56 PM In reply to

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    Re: Offline Editing

    Yep, that might work in coming projects. But it is no help to my ongoing problem which is described above. I guess I made a mistake and I won't do it again. But what I now need is to solve my problem and get my 25i PAL sequence to an working 1080p 25p sequence. And I need that sequence to relink to my original Fullres Material.

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  • Sat, Apr 4 2015 2:16 AM In reply to

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    Re: Offline Editing

    The process in that video is super clunky and unneccessary. 

    Have you tried relinking your sequence back to the original AMA media? That would be easier and almost instantaneous.

    Open the bin with your AMA clips (if you deleted that as the video said to, just make a new bin and AMA link the original files again). Highlight all of them. Then right click on your edited sequence, select Relink and set the options to Selected Items in Open Bins.

     

     

     

     

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  • Sun, Apr 5 2015 5:57 PM In reply to

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    Re: Offline Editing

    I've tried it now. At least he is able to relink something. But the motion adapters are still there. I've done following.

     

    Set my project format to 1080p/25p.

    Renamed Avid Media Files Folder

    Created a new bin

    AMA Linked all media in it.

    Marked all NEW AMA Clips

    and relinked them to the sequence.

     

    By the way: Many thanks for the tip. At least it feels like it might be the step in the right direction.

     

    I have 2 questions:

     

    1. Should I transcode the AMA-Links to DNxHD before or after relinking?

    2. Are those motion adapters a problem anyway? Or can I ignore them?

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  • Mon, Apr 6 2015 1:16 AM In reply to

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    Re: Offline Editing

    1. Transcode after relinking. Also, you've got multiple options. If you're done editings, you can transcode just your sequence so you aren't making a bunch a media you don't need. New clips will be created that you're sequence will be linked to. Or you could transcode all the AMA clips, if you do this, (I think) you'll want to choose "Link original clips to new files" which will keep them linked to your sequence. 

    2. Transcode to a format that matches your project and the motion adapters should go away. (or set your project format to match your source footage).

     

     

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  • Mon, Apr 6 2015 11:46 AM In reply to

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    Re: Offline Editing

    1. Thnks. It worked just perfect. 1st problem solved. The bigger one.

     

    2. That is another problem. A smaller one, but a problem. The original Footage is in 1080p/25p. My AMA-linked footage is transcoded to DNxHD 120 MXF and the project format is 1080p/25p. But there are still green dots on my clips. And I have no idea why they did not disappeared yet.

     

    And as your so kind and you're tips so helpful: You said the tutorial is so clunky. With my new experiences and the mistakes I've made; next time I'd do it this way:

     

    1.AMA-Link the footage

    2. Change project format to PAL 25p

    3. Transocde to DV 25p 420 MXF

    4. Edit

    5. Rename Avid MediaFiles to Avid MediaFilesx

    6. Change project format to 1080p/25p

    7. Relink to Media on Drive

    8. Transcode sequence to DNxHD 120 MXF

    9. Render out

     

    Would you do it the same way or is there a better one?

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