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  • Thu, May 3 2012 9:13 PM

    When exporting .mov files they come out very dark & high contrast!

    When I'm exporting .mov files they seem to come out very dark & with higher contrast than what's seen in the timeline playback.

    I've checked, watching the exports on other computers and youtube uploads and everything is about 25% darker (contrast and lightness) somehow.  Any suggestions???

    Sean J. McCoy

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  • Thu, May 3 2012 9:27 PM In reply to

    • Chepal
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    Re: When exporting .mov files they come out very dark & high contrast!

    hi sean.

    rgb vs. 709 colorspace? did you checked that?

    che

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  • Thu, May 3 2012 10:26 PM In reply to

    Re: When exporting .mov files they come out very dark & high contrast!

    I've always done RGB, but I'll give the other a shot...

    Sean J. McCoy

    My System:
    Intel Core2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40 GHz
    6Gb RAM
    Windows 7 Pro 64-bit
    AVID Media Composer 5.0.2
    NVIDIA GeForce FX 1800 Video Card
    LG BluRay/DVD/CD Burner
    4 Tb Memory

  • Thu, May 3 2012 10:39 PM In reply to

    Re: When exporting .mov files they come out very dark & high contrast!

    Avoid encoding to H264 using the Quicktime engine. Squeeze has the Main Concept H264 encoder, which is much better.

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  • Thu, May 3 2012 10:44 PM In reply to

    Re: When exporting .mov files they come out very dark & high contrast!

    Nope - same problem.  Here's something odd:  AVID and Quicktime Player have the same light and contrast levels, but Windows Media Player and Youtube uploads look terrible and dark (see pic).  Any thoughts on how can I fix this?  This is all supposed to be youtube content and it can't come out looking this bad...

    Sean J. McCoy

    My System:
    Intel Core2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40 GHz
    6Gb RAM
    Windows 7 Pro 64-bit
    AVID Media Composer 5.0.2
    NVIDIA GeForce FX 1800 Video Card
    LG BluRay/DVD/CD Burner
    4 Tb Memory

  • Thu, May 3 2012 10:51 PM In reply to

    Re: When exporting .mov files they come out very dark & high contrast!

    What does that mean, "Squeeze has the Main Concept H264 encoder, which is much better."  I only have AVID MC5... how do you suggest I get good (not extremely dark and contrasty) exports and uploads with MC5?

    Sean J. McCoy

    My System:
    Intel Core2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40 GHz
    6Gb RAM
    Windows 7 Pro 64-bit
    AVID Media Composer 5.0.2
    NVIDIA GeForce FX 1800 Video Card
    LG BluRay/DVD/CD Burner
    4 Tb Memory

  • Thu, May 3 2012 10:58 PM In reply to

    Re: When exporting .mov files they come out very dark & high contrast!

    Use a different codec, less prone to gamma shifts. Or use Squeeze to encode for YouTube. 

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  • Fri, May 4 2012 1:08 PM In reply to

    Re: When exporting .mov files they come out very dark & high contrast!

    Which would be what?  I've tried going under Export, Quicktime, Options, Format Options, Video Settings:
    Avid 1:1,
    DV/DVCPRO=NTSC,
    MPEG-4 Video
    AVID DNxHD
    Avid Meridien Compressed
    Avid MeridienUncompressed (won't allow)
    Avid MPEGS2 50 mbit

    Tried all these with the same result, or only audio exporting.

    Please assist further?

    Sean J. McCoy

    My System:
    Intel Core2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40 GHz
    6Gb RAM
    Windows 7 Pro 64-bit
    AVID Media Composer 5.0.2
    NVIDIA GeForce FX 1800 Video Card
    LG BluRay/DVD/CD Burner
    4 Tb Memory

  • Fri, May 4 2012 1:09 PM In reply to

    Re: When exporting .mov files they come out very dark & high contrast!

    Which would be what?  I've tried going under Export, Quicktime, Options, Format Options, Video Settings:
    Avid 1:1,
    DV/DVCPRO=NTSC,
    MPEG-4 Video
    AVID DNxHD
    Avid Meridien Compressed
    Avid MeridienUncompressed (won't allow)
    Avid MPEGS2 50 mbit

    Tried all these with the same result, or only audio eporting.

    Please assist further?

    Sean J. McCoy

    My System:
    Intel Core2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40 GHz
    6Gb RAM
    Windows 7 Pro 64-bit
    AVID Media Composer 5.0.2
    NVIDIA GeForce FX 1800 Video Card
    LG BluRay/DVD/CD Burner
    4 Tb Memory

  • Fri, May 4 2012 2:16 PM In reply to

    Re: When exporting .mov files they come out very dark & high contrast!

    SeanJMcCoy:
    I've tried going under Export, Quicktime, Options, Format Options, Video Settings:
    Whatever you are using there will go through the Quicktime engine. If you export Same-As-Source from Avid, then use a 3rd party application like Squeeze, that should make things easier (depending on the codec you choose inside Squeeze).

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  • Fri, May 4 2012 4:14 PM In reply to

    • babyblue
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    Re: When exporting .mov files they come out very dark & high contrast!

    1- Update to newer version of the quick time player.

    Question: Where are you going to use this .mov files?

    try export as a reference file 

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  • Fri, May 4 2012 4:44 PM In reply to

    Re: When exporting .mov files they come out very dark & high contrast!

    Well the exports that I play in Quicktime look good - just like in AVID - the issue is that these are for youtube and a new comedy video website (like collegehumor.com or funnyordie.com)... so the gamma (or contrast or brightness) needs to be the same as I see it in AVID or my Quicktime player... the problem is that when the same files are played in Windows Media Player or on youtube they come out much darker (see picture example above in this thread). 

    All of my work needs to look like it does while in AVID on youtube... that's the main issue.

    Sean J. McCoy

    My System:
    Intel Core2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40 GHz
    6Gb RAM
    Windows 7 Pro 64-bit
    AVID Media Composer 5.0.2
    NVIDIA GeForce FX 1800 Video Card
    LG BluRay/DVD/CD Burner
    4 Tb Memory

  • Thu, May 10 2012 4:32 PM In reply to

    • babyblue
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    Re: When exporting .mov files they come out very dark & high contrast!

    QUICK TIME PLAYER give us some strange thinks, I did have some of those problens with shifting the luminance/gamma of my video.

    There is a software that I did buy call Calibrated{Q}XDDecode, that correct these problems, cost around $200.

    You tell the software to calibrate and correct the gamma values of the Quicktime.

     

    allan

     

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  • Thu, May 10 2012 9:26 PM In reply to

    • darkoibr
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    Re: When exporting .mov files they come out very dark & high contrast!

    Here is the workaround I found.. Its not identical to MC record window but almost there. Export using QT but do a custom codec, not same as source. When you get QT set up window select Apple ProRes 4444, then chek all the other options. There should be a check box for gamma correction. It is set to automatic by default. Chage it to none and select export. Now if file size of that export is too big use squeeze or QT or compressor to get it to what you want...

     

     

  • Fri, May 11 2012 1:06 AM In reply to

    • jwrl
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    Re: When exporting .mov files they come out very dark & high contrast!

    darkoibr:
    When you get QT set up window select Apple ProRes 4444, then chek all the other options.
    Nice trick if you can do it on a PC.  I assume that you're a Mac user - Apple aren't very enthusiastic about PC users using ProRes codecs for encoding.

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