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  • Wed, Feb 22 2012 7:18 AM

    • OneMadCow
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    ISIS 5K Force10 Question

    I've poked around a bit for this and being under the gun, I'm just going to jump in and ask this one.

    We have a ISIS 5K installed and have stations all over the main building and several more next door. Rather than pull a boatload of CAT6 drops, land them and add additional switches in one location: can the 2x 10gigE XFP ports on the back be used to drop fibre interconnects between 3 switches located in different data rooms? ... will that provide enough bandwidth using 1x or 2x XFP connections for the ISIS? I'm going to drop a dime on engineering support tomorrow, but I wanted to float this first.

    Thanks.

     

    Geoff Miller, IT Support

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    [Edit: I realize as I'm jumping into this situation that the XFP modules are used to connect to the ISIS engine. So this probably isn't going to work. A second switch will probably have to be added and stacked. Then a boatload of cable is going to have be pulled.. ugh.]

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  • Fri, Mar 2 2012 10:47 PM In reply to

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    Re: ISIS 5K Force10 Question

    It depends if you have room for more modules in switch that will host the XFPs. I know that for S60n there are at least 2 slots for modules, that means 4 XFPs. Make sure that the switch at the other end is also compatible with Avid. 1 x10 GB connection could eat all the bandwith for 1 storage engine, so the XFP connection should not be a botttleneck

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  • Fri, Mar 2 2012 11:04 PM In reply to

    Re: ISIS 5K Force10 Question

    Yes you can use the 10Gb module to cascade 2 switches. We do it often. I am unsure if you can cascade 3 swtiches though. I have not tried it in fear of the throughput load.

    2 switch cascading via 10Gb module is approved by Avid. Are you using 24 or 48 port switch?

    You can stack 24 to 24 but cannot stack 48 to 24.

     

     

    edit: proper terminology usage, between "cascade" and "stacking"

     

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  • Sat, Aug 24 2013 9:48 PM In reply to

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    Re: ISIS 5K Force10 Question

    Hello

     

    I just found this old thread and have a similar question.

    I have a setup with two Isis 5000 engines which needs to be connected to the same network AND at the same time I have people sitting on two or three diffent locations/floors. I have two Force10 S25N switches.

    As I see it I could put two 10G modules in one of the switches and one 10G module in the second switch. Then connect the to engines to switch 1 using 10G connections and connect switch 1 to switch 2 also using a 10G connection. Would that be the way to go?

     

    Would it be possible to connect a third switch?

     

    According to the thread stacking using 10G is approved. However according to the Force10 S25N manual, 10G is not supported for stacking. See link below (the manual is from 2008 so maybe it's just because it's outdated?)

    http://www.force10networks.com/CSPortal20/KnowledgeBase/DOCUMENTATION/InstallGuidesQuickrefs/S-Series/INSTALL_S25NV_15-Dec-2008.pdf

    See page 19 at the bottom.

     

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  • Sat, Aug 24 2013 10:18 PM In reply to

    Re: ISIS 5K Force10 Question

    Hi whiz

     

    Yes, with ISIS 5000 and Force10, you can connect any 4 combination of chassis and/or switch using the primary switch. This means your suggested configuration is qualified. It is considered cascading and not stacking. We do this all the time.

    On any secondary switch, Avid does not qualify another switch and/or chassis. Or at least Avid cannot guarantee performance or stability. All form of expansion, switch or chassis, must be off the primary switch.

     

    HTH

     

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  • Sat, Aug 24 2013 10:23 PM In reply to

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    Re: ISIS 5K Force10 Question

  • Sun, Aug 25 2013 6:16 AM In reply to

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    Re: ISIS 5K Force10 Question

    Aaahhh...I see. It's cascading and not stacking. That makes sense.

    Thank you for excellent answers Dom and Chris. Yes

     

    Cheers

    Michael

     

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  • Wed, Jan 22 2014 10:51 PM In reply to

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    Re: ISIS 5K Force10 Question

    Hey all, I have a simular situation. What I need to know is Can I attach two Force10 25n switches too one ISIS 5k? And waht hardware would be needed too do this? 

     

    OUr ISIS lives in one building, we have two shows in two seperate buildings, My plan was to put one Force10 ethernet switch in each "show" building. But how do they connect too the ISIS 5K server? I only have one 10 gig port in the server. 

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  • Wed, Jan 22 2014 11:00 PM In reply to

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    Re: ISIS 5K Force10 Question

    Yes, the picture I posted is basically exactly what you need.

    10GbE from ISIS to Switch 1. 10GbE from Switch 1 to Switch 2.

    You'll just need to buy the additional 10GbE ports for your existing switch.

  • Wed, Jan 22 2014 11:01 PM In reply to

    Re: ISIS 5K Force10 Question

    You need both switches to have the 10 Gb module.

    The first switch will be the "master switch". Connect the ISIS to this switch. Using the second port of the master switch, connect it to the second switch.

    That is all you need to do. Keep in mind that both switch must have the Avid boot config (unless you know how to configure it yourself).

     

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